1 00:00:06,389 --> 00:00:03,510 the european space agency's automated 2 00:00:08,070 --> 00:00:06,399 transfer vehicle continues to make its 3 00:00:10,310 --> 00:00:08,080 way toward the international space 4 00:00:12,789 --> 00:00:10,320 station right now it's heading for a 5 00:00:15,990 --> 00:00:12,799 docking to the zvezda module's aft 6 00:00:18,550 --> 00:00:16,000 docking port next tuesday morning the 7 00:00:21,029 --> 00:00:18,560 ship which launched from french guyana 8 00:00:23,670 --> 00:00:21,039 last week is the fifth in a series of 9 00:00:26,230 --> 00:00:23,680 five vehicles that esa its member 10 00:00:27,670 --> 00:00:26,240 nations and its industry partners have 11 00:00:29,109 --> 00:00:27,680 provided to the international space 12 00:00:30,870 --> 00:00:29,119 station project 13 00:00:33,030 --> 00:00:30,880 been delivering supplies to the station 14 00:00:35,030 --> 00:00:33,040 but done a lot more than that as well 15 00:00:36,870 --> 00:00:35,040 over the years today we're going to 16 00:00:39,030 --> 00:00:36,880 discuss that with eric vanderwaal the 17 00:00:41,910 --> 00:00:39,040 european space agency's international 18 00:00:43,830 --> 00:00:41,920 space station program liaison in houston 19 00:00:45,430 --> 00:00:43,840 good morning eric good morning that was 20 00:00:47,270 --> 00:00:45,440 a beautiful launch last week how have 21 00:00:49,029 --> 00:00:47,280 things been going so far things have 22 00:00:51,350 --> 00:00:49,039 been going fabulous 23 00:00:52,709 --> 00:00:51,360 we had a great launch on the 29th of 24 00:00:54,630 --> 00:00:52,719 july 25 00:00:56,229 --> 00:00:54,640 everything is going well systems are 26 00:00:58,869 --> 00:00:56,239 extremely healthy 27 00:01:01,110 --> 00:00:58,879 and we're performing our phasing towards 28 00:01:03,110 --> 00:01:01,120 the iss it's slow and steady all 29 00:01:05,590 --> 00:01:03,120 maneuvers are being completed as planned 30 00:01:07,830 --> 00:01:05,600 so everything looks great for a docking 31 00:01:09,590 --> 00:01:07,840 next week tuesday now 32 00:01:11,910 --> 00:01:09,600 it's going to do some more work on the 33 00:01:14,390 --> 00:01:11,920 way too there's a not just carrying 34 00:01:16,630 --> 00:01:14,400 cargo but atv has been a test bed for 35 00:01:18,870 --> 00:01:16,640 developing some technology and you're 36 00:01:21,749 --> 00:01:18,880 gonna try to demonstrate some of that on 37 00:01:23,830 --> 00:01:21,759 friday with the the lyris rendezvous 38 00:01:25,109 --> 00:01:23,840 sensors tell me what that is 39 00:01:27,990 --> 00:01:25,119 so basically 40 00:01:29,670 --> 00:01:28,000 every atv is similar to the previous one 41 00:01:32,069 --> 00:01:29,680 because certainly now it has become a 42 00:01:34,630 --> 00:01:32,079 mature concept however 43 00:01:37,109 --> 00:01:34,640 there is an experiment called lyris 44 00:01:39,590 --> 00:01:37,119 stands for laser infrared 45 00:01:41,429 --> 00:01:39,600 imaging sensors which is piggybacking on 46 00:01:43,510 --> 00:01:41,439 this last flight 47 00:01:45,590 --> 00:01:43,520 we have sensors installed on the outside 48 00:01:47,030 --> 00:01:45,600 of the atv and recording equipment on 49 00:01:49,429 --> 00:01:47,040 the inside 50 00:01:51,749 --> 00:01:49,439 so maybe to give you an idea the atv 51 00:01:54,870 --> 00:01:51,759 today his approach to the space station 52 00:01:56,469 --> 00:01:54,880 is mainly done in a cooperative way we 53 00:01:58,789 --> 00:01:56,479 have that is to say the station is 54 00:02:01,830 --> 00:01:58,799 cooperating the station helps us the 55 00:02:03,030 --> 00:02:01,840 station is aware that we're coming 56 00:02:04,550 --> 00:02:03,040 we have 57 00:02:07,429 --> 00:02:04,560 for the long range approach we're using 58 00:02:09,589 --> 00:02:07,439 gps data which comes from the atv and 59 00:02:11,589 --> 00:02:09,599 from the space station and we use rgps 60 00:02:13,990 --> 00:02:11,599 navigation and when we get closer we 61 00:02:15,589 --> 00:02:14,000 switch to optical sensors which work 62 00:02:18,309 --> 00:02:15,599 together with the space station which 63 00:02:19,910 --> 00:02:18,319 has on the smf ports laser reflectors 64 00:02:23,350 --> 00:02:19,920 installed 65 00:02:25,190 --> 00:02:23,360 however isa and the european uh industry 66 00:02:28,390 --> 00:02:25,200 believe that it's essential also to look 67 00:02:30,470 --> 00:02:28,400 at non-cooperative rendezvous so for 68 00:02:31,190 --> 00:02:30,480 instance with space debris or objects 69 00:02:33,910 --> 00:02:31,200 which 70 00:02:36,309 --> 00:02:33,920 try to 71 00:02:38,949 --> 00:02:36,319 to make an approach so new sensors have 72 00:02:41,110 --> 00:02:38,959 been developed for this new technology 73 00:02:43,110 --> 00:02:41,120 lyris is one of them 74 00:02:45,509 --> 00:02:43,120 so libras consists basically of an 75 00:02:48,470 --> 00:02:45,519 infrared camera which will be used for a 76 00:02:51,509 --> 00:02:48,480 long-range approach and a lidar for the 77 00:02:53,830 --> 00:02:51,519 short range navigation 78 00:02:56,949 --> 00:02:53,840 so lyrics has been installed on atv will 79 00:02:58,790 --> 00:02:56,959 be demonstrated on this atv flight 80 00:02:59,830 --> 00:02:58,800 there will be a fly under at the end of 81 00:03:02,149 --> 00:02:59,840 this week 82 00:03:05,190 --> 00:03:02,159 and we will use the data 83 00:03:07,190 --> 00:03:05,200 or use lyrics and the sensors up to 84 00:03:09,830 --> 00:03:07,200 the rendezvous and the docking 85 00:03:11,990 --> 00:03:09,840 lyrics itself does not is not included 86 00:03:14,390 --> 00:03:12,000 in the navigation of atv so atv has 87 00:03:15,910 --> 00:03:14,400 their own navigation system 88 00:03:18,710 --> 00:03:15,920 it's just a separate thing we will 89 00:03:20,309 --> 00:03:18,720 record the data and once we get on board 90 00:03:21,990 --> 00:03:20,319 we will get the recorders out and then 91 00:03:24,470 --> 00:03:22,000 we'll bring the data down later very 92 00:03:27,270 --> 00:03:24,480 interesting now in fact on this flight 93 00:03:28,949 --> 00:03:27,280 the atv is also going to be used in in 94 00:03:30,949 --> 00:03:28,959 sort of a similar way to demonstrate 95 00:03:33,990 --> 00:03:30,959 other technologies but this is at the 96 00:03:36,390 --> 00:03:34,000 end of its mission uh the the af after 97 00:03:38,070 --> 00:03:36,400 it undocks six months from now its 98 00:03:40,149 --> 00:03:38,080 descent is going to be different than 99 00:03:40,949 --> 00:03:40,159 what has happened before 100 00:03:42,710 --> 00:03:40,959 well 101 00:03:44,390 --> 00:03:42,720 one day the space station 102 00:03:46,149 --> 00:03:44,400 will have to come down 103 00:03:48,390 --> 00:03:46,159 we call it the end of life of the space 104 00:03:49,350 --> 00:03:48,400 station the space station is a very 105 00:03:50,949 --> 00:03:49,360 heavy 106 00:03:53,110 --> 00:03:50,959 uh vehicle 107 00:03:55,589 --> 00:03:53,120 and uh unfortunately it's it's not 108 00:03:58,070 --> 00:03:55,599 plausible to have sufficient uh 109 00:03:59,910 --> 00:03:58,080 uh propulsion available to do a steep 110 00:04:02,149 --> 00:03:59,920 reentry most vehicles will actually do a 111 00:04:04,229 --> 00:04:02,159 steep reentry 112 00:04:06,630 --> 00:04:04,239 the iss is going to do 113 00:04:07,910 --> 00:04:06,640 a design of life a shallow reentry now 114 00:04:09,830 --> 00:04:07,920 there is a 115 00:04:12,229 --> 00:04:09,840 crucial difference between a steep and a 116 00:04:15,350 --> 00:04:12,239 shallow reentry in a steep range you get 117 00:04:18,229 --> 00:04:15,360 you get very short but very very strong 118 00:04:19,830 --> 00:04:18,239 heating on the vehicle 119 00:04:20,870 --> 00:04:19,840 which has certain characteristics of 120 00:04:23,749 --> 00:04:20,880 breakup 121 00:04:28,070 --> 00:04:23,759 on the shallow reentry you get a very 122 00:04:29,270 --> 00:04:28,080 slow heating almost melting of the 123 00:04:32,629 --> 00:04:29,280 structures 124 00:04:33,909 --> 00:04:32,639 so the isis partnership got together has 125 00:04:37,110 --> 00:04:33,919 expressed a 126 00:04:40,550 --> 00:04:37,120 mutual interest to go and try to 127 00:04:42,390 --> 00:04:40,560 to implement a shallow entry on the atv 128 00:04:44,870 --> 00:04:42,400 in order to get a data to 129 00:04:47,990 --> 00:04:44,880 as good as possible model the future 130 00:04:50,790 --> 00:04:48,000 re-entry of the iss so we have agreed to 131 00:04:52,950 --> 00:04:50,800 that so after our stay which will be 132 00:04:55,270 --> 00:04:52,960 approximately six months 133 00:04:57,909 --> 00:04:55,280 we will undock from the space station 134 00:04:59,350 --> 00:04:57,919 and get ready to do a 135 00:05:02,150 --> 00:04:59,360 shallow reentry 136 00:05:03,590 --> 00:05:02,160 there will be equipment inside the atv 137 00:05:06,550 --> 00:05:03,600 there will be 138 00:05:08,790 --> 00:05:06,560 an esa experiment which is a camera 139 00:05:12,710 --> 00:05:08,800 this is the first we will have eyeball 140 00:05:15,510 --> 00:05:12,720 which is an infrared camera we'll have a 141 00:05:17,510 --> 00:05:15,520 rebar which is a breakup recorder 142 00:05:19,909 --> 00:05:17,520 and then we will have also on ground 143 00:05:22,390 --> 00:05:19,919 there is a great interest 144 00:05:23,990 --> 00:05:22,400 from people in australia to have 145 00:05:25,590 --> 00:05:24,000 numerous experiments i think i don't 146 00:05:26,550 --> 00:05:25,600 know the exact number but it's close to 147 00:05:28,390 --> 00:05:26,560 70 148 00:05:30,550 --> 00:05:28,400 experiments which will do monitoring 149 00:05:32,550 --> 00:05:30,560 from the ground and we will also ask if 150 00:05:34,790 --> 00:05:32,560 possible the crew from the space station 151 00:05:36,310 --> 00:05:34,800 if we have the right lighting to take 152 00:05:39,029 --> 00:05:36,320 pictures 153 00:05:40,870 --> 00:05:39,039 during the breakup of the atv and 154 00:05:43,029 --> 00:05:40,880 i think there will be a tremendous 155 00:05:45,189 --> 00:05:43,039 amount of data which we can collect from 156 00:05:47,350 --> 00:05:45,199 this re-entry and which will be uh 157 00:05:48,950 --> 00:05:47,360 extremely valuable to uh 158 00:05:50,469 --> 00:05:48,960 to a lot of people but especially the 159 00:05:52,550 --> 00:05:50,479 iss those are 160 00:05:54,950 --> 00:05:52,560 i think great examples of the kinds of 161 00:05:56,309 --> 00:05:54,960 things that esa has been able to do with 162 00:05:58,550 --> 00:05:56,319 this project 163 00:06:01,590 --> 00:05:58,560 and and that's being turned over into 164 00:06:03,670 --> 00:06:01,600 future uh future products or portions of 165 00:06:05,510 --> 00:06:03,680 future vehicles right 166 00:06:07,670 --> 00:06:05,520 well we have to see that 167 00:06:08,710 --> 00:06:07,680 first the european industry can be very 168 00:06:11,990 --> 00:06:08,720 proud 169 00:06:14,070 --> 00:06:12,000 achieved they have uh 170 00:06:17,029 --> 00:06:14,080 have designed they have developed they 171 00:06:20,790 --> 00:06:17,039 have operated we're still operating 172 00:06:21,990 --> 00:06:20,800 a fully autonomous free-flying vehicle 173 00:06:24,390 --> 00:06:22,000 with 174 00:06:27,430 --> 00:06:24,400 i would say state-of-the-art navigation 175 00:06:31,830 --> 00:06:29,350 and we have done this 176 00:06:34,309 --> 00:06:31,840 now five times 177 00:06:37,990 --> 00:06:34,319 at the same time it has also proven that 178 00:06:40,150 --> 00:06:38,000 isa with the delivery of the 5 atvs 179 00:06:43,189 --> 00:06:40,160 we use those atvs also 180 00:06:45,670 --> 00:06:43,199 as a compensation in kind for our parts 181 00:06:48,070 --> 00:06:45,680 or our obligation for the i call it the 182 00:06:50,469 --> 00:06:48,080 household bill of the space stations or 183 00:06:51,670 --> 00:06:50,479 the common system operation cost 184 00:06:54,150 --> 00:06:51,680 so 185 00:06:56,150 --> 00:06:54,160 with with the delivery of columbus 186 00:06:58,950 --> 00:06:56,160 module which is attached to the station 187 00:07:00,870 --> 00:06:58,960 and the atv it has also set isa as a 188 00:07:03,589 --> 00:07:00,880 very reliable partner in international 189 00:07:05,830 --> 00:07:03,599 corporation in human spaceflight 190 00:07:07,029 --> 00:07:05,840 and i think this has led 191 00:07:11,749 --> 00:07:07,039 to 192 00:07:14,390 --> 00:07:11,759 because now that we have completed our 193 00:07:17,110 --> 00:07:14,400 obligation for the coming years 194 00:07:20,390 --> 00:07:17,120 we were looking to a perspective to go 195 00:07:22,550 --> 00:07:20,400 beyond iss the atv is really limited to 196 00:07:25,749 --> 00:07:22,560 the resupply of the space station and 197 00:07:28,309 --> 00:07:25,759 going beyond the iss is the perfect way 198 00:07:29,830 --> 00:07:28,319 to reuse the technology the processes 199 00:07:31,670 --> 00:07:29,840 and expertise that you have developed 200 00:07:34,390 --> 00:07:31,680 some of those systems are are going to 201 00:07:36,230 --> 00:07:34,400 be part of the next crude vehicle the 202 00:07:39,029 --> 00:07:36,240 orion vehicle so 203 00:07:40,150 --> 00:07:39,039 when we looked at it we have uh found 204 00:07:43,670 --> 00:07:40,160 something which we believe is a 205 00:07:47,029 --> 00:07:43,680 confirmation of the skills and and the 206 00:07:48,390 --> 00:07:47,039 valuable partnership that esa can offer 207 00:07:49,990 --> 00:07:48,400 and we have signed an agreement with 208 00:07:52,950 --> 00:07:50,000 nasa to develop 209 00:07:55,029 --> 00:07:52,960 the service module of the uh 210 00:07:56,070 --> 00:07:55,039 multi-purpose crew vehicle of the orion 211 00:07:56,950 --> 00:07:56,080 program 212 00:07:59,510 --> 00:07:56,960 so 213 00:08:02,629 --> 00:07:59,520 this is this is again a confirmation of 214 00:08:05,430 --> 00:08:02,639 validation of everything that atv has 215 00:08:08,150 --> 00:08:05,440 brought to this program has helped us do 216 00:08:10,629 --> 00:08:08,160 all the expertise and part of it is now 217 00:08:13,110 --> 00:08:10,639 being reused not only technology but the 218 00:08:14,790 --> 00:08:13,120 processes everything will be reused in 219 00:08:15,830 --> 00:08:14,800 the development of the service module 220 00:08:17,029 --> 00:08:15,840 which is 221 00:08:19,270 --> 00:08:17,039 part of a 222 00:08:20,790 --> 00:08:19,280 very important u.s exploration program 223 00:08:22,550 --> 00:08:20,800 it's all very very 224 00:08:24,550 --> 00:08:22,560 very exciting to to see what's going to 225 00:08:26,629 --> 00:08:24,560 happen with this in the next step eric 226 00:08:28,230 --> 00:08:26,639 thank you for for coming and sharing 227 00:08:30,950 --> 00:08:28,240 some of that story with us this morning 228 00:08:32,870 --> 00:08:30,960 thank you so much eric vanderwaal is the 229 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